17 Clues Your Girlfriend IS or WAS a Whore

by Vern on January 22, 2007

This article I think is appropriate since there are so many guys that come here to Thailand and meet someone that they think is the answer to either their prayers… or to their sleepless nights with their hand under the sheets. The girl is really a whore – and the guy is clueless.

Now, for the guys that don’t care – ok, no worries – whatever you want for yourself – whatever is OK for yourself – is great. Have fun. Don’t read this until after you and your whore break up and then read this for when you want to find a decent girl next time or the time after that – or when you have a friend that needs some help, not for you…

This list of clues to knowing if you have found a good girl or one that is now or was in the past – not a good girl. It shouldn’t need to be said that if you found your girl in a bar of ANY sort that you shouldn’t be reading this list… you know from whence she came and you don’t need to read this list of clues to see if maybe she might have SOME redeeming qualities OTHER than she she was found in a bar.

Likewise, there are some Geographical AREAS that one could say – anyone that came from that AREA is, or was a whore. Patpong, Pattaya, and Phuket are 3 areas that come to mind. There ARE girls that are good girls there – don’t get me wrong, but the chances that you found the 1 out of 175 to be YOUR girlfriend – are – just that, 1 in 175.

Don’t brush these off because your honey-muffin told you she did something different with her life. Thai bargirls will make up EVERY story possible to get you to believe that she wasn’t a whore. Few of these in the clues list are so right on that if she is guilty of it – then she IS or WAS a whore without question. However, if your little tinsel toes trips more than one of these – just accept the fact… she’s a WHORE…

- She is familiar with one of the pay-for-play areas in Thailand. If she KNOWS the areas – she is or was a whore. If she can show you around Pattaya or Patong – and shows you around to all the touristy spots chances are great she didn’t work there as a travel guide.

- She wears a lot of makeup. In Thailand the good girls don’t wear makeup. The Thai guys obviously don’t care about it – or the entire country would be wearing makeup. The only reason a girl would be wearing a lot of makeup is if: She is from another country. She is in the fashion industry – a model, actress, or someone in high-so (high society). Or, she is used to wearing it because she knows how to look good for the tourists who come to Thailand. If it’s the 3rd one, she’s a freelance or a f/t whore.

- She isn’t shy about patting your azz in public, holding hands, and kissing you – even on the cheek. Good Thai girls don’t DO THIS. This should be a major flag.

- She has had a baby, but the baby is not with her… A large percentage of girls that work in the pay-for-play industry have had children that they’ve left with their mothers, aunts or other relatives – so they can work unencumbered. A Thai woman loves her kids a lot. Those that are not WITH them are not with them for a reason. If the mom worked a restaurant – she could have the kid with her wherever she was. If the mom was working as a whore – it’s not a good atmosphere for the kid and she knows it – and won’t expose the kid to it.

- Your girl isn’t a virgin. This is a pretty good clue actually. In Thai society – a girl that is not a virgin gets no dowry and probably gets no decent husband either. A girl that loses her virginity had better marry the guy. If she does not – then she is spoiled goods and the Thai guys won’t marry her. They will almost NEVER marry a girl that has been married and has a child. They have a severe loss of face for this – to be raising someone else’s child. There are exceptions – but, I’d say this is a BIG CLUE.

- All the girl can think about and talk about – the only thing that she seems to be passionate about, is money and what she wants that costs more money. Good Thai girls don’t MENTION money. It’s not something that is on their mind and they are not obsessed by it. Girls that are obsessed by it will do things to get more money. What does a girl with no skills, no university education and working in a restaurant do for money? I’ve seen so many girls that are freelance whores – they just go with guys they like for a dinner or movie or whatever – maybe straight to their room – just because they need an extra 500 – 1000 baht to get the latest phone or clothes or whatever. To me – this is a major flag – and I avoid ALL girls that are focused on money. To live in Thailand all a girl needs is 5000 baht per month to be happy. They eat and stay very cheaply. I’ve seen it. I’ve also seen those that weren’t happy with that kind of money – offer me sexz for cash.

- If she has friends IN Pattaya, Patong, or Patpong and she’s keeping in close contact with them – she is or was or may turn out to be a whore if the relationship with you doesn’t work.

- If she has tattoos – she worked in the pay for play industry in SOME fashion. Whether she worked in a bar, as a masseuse, danced with poles (not polish people, metal poles), served drinks at a restaurant, worked in a fishbowl, or freelanced on the streets – the girl was almost definitely a whore. Add to this – if she has piercings beside her earrings – she was or is a whore. If she has her tongue pierced she was or is 100% without fail, a whore. If her nose is pierced – not 100% but north of 95% I’d say.

- If she goes to another place to talk on the cellphone then she is hiding something. It should make you wonder. The girls that have nothing to hide – have nothing to hide. If she’s hiding something – it’s another man or husband. Many girls in the “industry” are married with Thai guys and send them money – maybe YOUR money to support them. It’s what they do for love… !

- Her English is pretty good. She understands anything that has to do with money or a bar or restaurant situation. She may joke to you about “short time, love you long time, no money no honey…” and other typical bar-type jokes and ribbing that goes on. If she does these things – SHE WORKED IN THE INDUSTRY!

- She is not interested at all in taking care of you once you are in a relationship with her. She wants to watch TV all day and eat, and gossip with her friends. She wants to send out for laundry and eat out everyday. She doesn’t cook. She isn’t looking at you like you are a gift from heaven – which you are – you are making a farang salary – easily 4 times what any Thai guy is making… and you are supporting her with free rent, spending money, and going out to eat sometimes… whores and ex-whores want to really minimize WHAT they are doing from day to day. They’ll plead with you to go out to eat somewhere, complain that they don’t have what someone else has – different type of car, gold, vacations, computer, bigger TV, IPod, etc… they are never satisfied with what they have, and they don’t GIVE much in the way of effort to keeping the house, cooking or things like that. They are used to the bargirl lifestyle which is – eat out everyday and try to buy what everyone else has.

- She has a separate bank account. Sometimes she is transferring money OUT to a Thai husband…. sometimes she is receiving money from one or a group of past customers (foreigners probably) when she was a f/t whore. Guys will continue to send money for a LONG time between visits. Girls will, of course, collect it as long as he’s sending it.

- If she is not reachable by phone sometimes – she is up to something. Not saying she’ s a whore, BUT, any Thai girl that can pick up a ringing cell phone while riding 70km per hour on the motorbike can pick a cell phone up ANYTIME unless there’s a sneaky reason why she won’t. The cell phone is a Thai girl’s entire existence… if she’s holed up with you living a boring life in the village – that phone is her link to sanity. If you are calling her and she’s not answering it – something is SERIOUSLY wrong with that picture… No doubt.

Well, that’s 12 – I’ll let other people come up with another 5, I’m pooped out… If you have any to add – comment them – and I’ll add them if I agree…

Update: 1/2011

This post caused more grief than you can imagine. Since I posted it I’ve constantly had guys writing me and telling me that the word whore is not appropriate, it’s too rough.

In this case I call it as I see it.

There are THOUSANDS of guys that married prostitutes – and they can’t read this post without a knee-jerk reaction to it. It’s the truth… the truth hurts I think. Can you imagine marrying a whore and then having a baby with her? Your son or daughter has a whore for a mom? I just don’t get it… but so many guys marry the bargirls. It’s a very sad thing for the kids, for the guy involved as he inevitably gets shafted time and time again – and loses the whole farm.

Sure there are some successes. Show me them… nobody is talking about those…

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Anonymous January 22, 2007 at 11:28 pm

Sooner or later i was going to bring up a subject that requires your expertise. But thankyou because you have created a blog dedicated to this subject, thankyou very much!

However, i am afraid to put up my personal problems out on a Blog for everyone to see.

Can you please contact me at:

dannydominicsantiago@hotmail.com

~ Jack

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Anonymous January 23, 2007 at 1:02 am

For the past year i have been seeing, taking out, and boinking a young Thai woman. I am sorry but i do not want to give out anymore details.

RED FLAGS:

- “In Thailand the good girls don’t wear makeup. The Thai guys obviously don’t care about it – or the entire country would be wearing makeup.”

Yay me! Her mother doesn’t wear it and she only wears some makeup here (Hawaii) because all the other girls do it.

“- She isn’t shy about patting your azz in public, holding hands, and kissing you – even on the cheek. Good Thai girls don’t DO THIS. This should be a major flag.”

She has never patted my ass but i do it. Everytime she scolds me for it.

Good Thai girls don’t hold hands? When I began going out with her i had to grab her hand, after a few months she began holding my hand in public.

She looks around (weird) before kissing me on the lips. Does that count?

“- She has had a baby, but the baby is not with her… A large percentage of girls that work in the pay-for-play industry have had children that they’ve left with their mothers, aunts or other relatives – so they can work unencumbered. A Thai woman loves her kids a lot. Those that are not WITH them are not with them for a reason. If the mom worked a restaurant – she could have the kid with her wherever she was. If the mom was working as a whore – it’s not a good atmosphere for the kid and she knows it – and won’t expose the kid to it.”

The first thing she said to me before i began having sex with her was that she had a kid and she was not worth my time! She told me she didn’t want me to get angry at her and was sorry. I got up and left, just like that leaving her up on the stairs to her parents’ apartment. I was following logic, because children were a RED FLAG. I was so intent on getting away from here that as I was walking down the stairs i felt a twang of guilt because i could see her face from inbetween the railings. She wouldn’t even watch me leave? I got to the bottom before, being the chump i am, raced back up the steps to hold her and tell her i didn’t care if she had a baby.

When i started sleeping with her she showed me pictures of her “baby”

It was of her younger brother and his girlfriend taking care of a 3 year old toddler.

She told me that her husband used to beat her and she left. He lives in another country now. They talk, she says, sometimes because of his daughter.

Personally, i believe she did something to provoke her husbands’ rage and exagerated about the beatings? She ran away to her mom with kid in tow.

Part of me is so determined to expose her as the skank she is but part of me wants to believe that her husband was a bad guy who beat her until her mom and her new farang husband saved her and her kid.

I was surprised and shocked. She was telling me she wasn’t good enough for me and that i should look for a younger virgin female? Wow, i never met a woman like this before.

I just held her in my arms that night and told her jokingly she could make up for it by making 10 babies with me. 5 boys and 5 girls and i will be happy. :o Her reaction was priceless.

“- Your girl isn’t a virgin. This is a pretty good clue actually. In Thai society – a girl that is not a virgin gets no dowry and probably gets no decent husband either. A girl that loses her virginity had better marry the guy. If she does not – then she is spoiled goods and the Thai guys won’t marry her. They will almost NEVER marry a girl that has been married and has a child. They have a severe loss of face for this – to be raising someone else’s child. There are exceptions – but, I’d say this is a BIG CLUE.”

Could she be an exception?

“- All the girl can think about and talk about – the only thing that she seems to be passionate about, is money and what she wants that costs more money. Good Thai girls don’t MENTION money. It’s not something that is on their mind and they are not obsessed by it.”

This is awesome. I have, only once in the year i have been with this woman, talked to her about money.

She gave me a short lesson when i was trying to get her in bed with me.

1.) Family
2.) Money
3.) Love

Other than that, she tries to buy me what i want. I don’t want her to do that because being American i have been raised to buy her what she wants. Hell, she lives by a freaking mall now! She takes a shortcut through it with me to get to work. Oh my god, before long, she will start buying stuff…noooo! Americanized!

What surprised me is she bought 20 dollars worth in shoes at Payless. No girl dares buy shoes at payless because they are cheap. The Payless store at the major Pearl Ridge mall here in Oahu closed down because of a lack in customers. She bought these shoes to match the clothes she would wear on the plane home. Hell, i gave her the Nikes i bought in Iraq because i found out they were women shoes but she said they were too big. I let her keep them because i didn’t want them.

To this day, she chides me for wanting to buy her lingerie (She blushes everytime i mention it to her.) because she says, that’s what husbands do for thier wives. I responded with, will you act like my wife than i should be your husband.

“- If she has friends IN Pattaya, Patong, or Patpong and she’s keeping in close contact with them – she is or was or may turn out to be a whore if the relationship with you doesn’t work.”

She told me she had an old friend who was a stripper and asked me if i thought it was a bad thing. I was going to say something to support her than my training got a hold of me.

I told her in broken English that any woman who lets other men look at her and touch her, is a whore.

Whore is my favorite word to use with her. She hates it when i say it.

“- If she has tattoos – she worked in the pay for play industry in SOME fashion.”

She was trying to tell me she wasn’t a girl like that, when i was playing grab ass on the bus in public. I quickly pointed at these two tiny tatoos on her index fingers. She said this was a mistake that she did when she was 14. The letter “A” and a cross.

I don’t know what the hell she was doing when she was 14.

She told me she wanted a skank tatoo because everyone on MTV had one.

I told her she did that she can kiss my ass goodbye because i didn’t want a skank for a girlfriend.

“- If she goes to another place to talk on the cellphone then she is hiding something. It should make you wonder. The girls that have nothing to hide – have nothing to hide. If she’s hiding something – it’s another man or husband. Many girls in the “industry” are married with Thai guys and send them money – maybe YOUR money to support them. It’s what they do for love… !”

Her cellphone was only used to talk to her mother and me. In America. Now when i called to check up on her, she told me she has a cellphone now for Thailand. She will only use her American cell when she comes back…yeah, women say one thing and do another. I still don’t trust her.

“- Her English is pretty good. She understands anything that has to do with money or a bar or restaurant situation. She may joke to you about “short time, love you long time, no money no honey…” and other typical bar-type jokes and ribbing that goes on. If she does these things – SHE WORKED IN THE INDUSTRY!”

Her English was so bad that it scared me. What if someone took advantage of her freaking naiveness and lack of English? She got lost on the bus one time with another foreigner ending up in Ewa Beach. She wants to tell me many things but knows i cannot understand her.

“- She is not interested at all in taking care of you once you are in a relationship with her. She wants to watch TV all day and eat, and gossip with her friends.”

Lol! When i first came over to meet her parents she had cooked a plate of lunch for me. When i started eating it she leaned right into my face on her fists to see my reaction. I ate it like a machine. She was horrified! I quickly explained that in the Army they teach you to swallow spoon fulls whole. “You like Danny? You like Danny?”

Now I travel two hours by bus just to eat breakfast with her. She feeds me before she feeds herself. She asks me if there is anything she can do for me…except for sex but i always con her into ruining the bed she just made. Last time i had sex with her i used Lube and it was sooo sliperry that it stained the sheets.

She got really mad at me. For like a minute or two. I knew i had wronged her, so i did not tell her off but looked at the ground. Fuck me, it was my fault anyway for using thier bed, and my mess anyway. Damn me and my Sex Lube. I believe it was because she didn’t want her mother coming home and seeing that stain! I was afraid she would get in trouble so we began drying the stain out of the sheets! Amazingly, she didn’t want my help and said it was alright…

“- She has a separate bank account. Sometimes she is tranferring money OUT to a Thai husband…. sometimes she is receiving money from one or a group of past customers (foreigners probably) when she was a f/t whore. Guys will continue to send money for a LONG time between visits. Girls will, of course, collect it as long as he’s sending it.”

She won’t let me pay for things anyway. I give her loose change.

“- If she is not reachable by phone sometimes – she is up to something. Not saying she’ s a whore, BUT, any Thai girl that can pick up a ringing cell phone while riding 70km per hour on the motorbike can pick a cell phone up ANYTIME unless there’s a sneaky reason why she won’t. The cell phone is a Thai girl’s entire existence… if she’s holed up with you living a boring life in the village – that phone is her link to sanity. If you are calling her and she’s not answering it – something is SERIOUSLY wrong with that picture… No doubt.”

I just don’t call. I am afraid i’d pick it up and she would be in bed with some big fat sweaty American Air Force officer. She knows me notorious history for not calling. I couldn’t help but share this with her before she left. She looked at me in frustration than i said i would call.

We had an earthquake in October. I was at the Armory and she was home in a High Rise.

Sadly, i had left her for a whole week because i argued with her about my fetish.

To my ears, it sounded like she was denying me sex so i began to leave. She immeadiately tried to stop me by hugging me but i was too angry to stop. I said goodbye to her and she just sat in front of the television watching Cartoon Network with a cold catatonic stare. Than she said: “Your just like a kid!” before i closed the door. I knew it was an attempt to insult me but i knew better and ignored it.

When the Earthquake hit i tried to call her but the cell said there were too many callers trying to use the network. In frustration, i tried again but got a busy signal. Later on i called and she picked up the phone. I said i was sorry blah blah.

She told me in person not to do that again. Leaving her for a week?

However i realized that my fetish was a RED FLAG on my self.

Fetish is something artificial. Something i developed in High School when i first came to America and began having my own personal computer. To this day, i still have it and i have been finding the will to annihilate it once and for all.

Me being like a kid, is because of my age. I am 20 and she is 23.

Perhaps another red flag? I told her off on this one though. I myself was insecure at first but than my intincts began overuling everything i have learned in this country and i said F*ck it.

I am man, you are woman.

I have survived a tour of duty in Iraq and that, arrogantly as it sounds, more than qualifys me as a potential suitor for your ass. So your damn right i am going to dig into your panties and find my prize. Your damned right i am going to start acting like i am 26 years old. Hell, i know more scumbags my age who don’t know better, know and don’t care, or are just sadistic scum. So she better be glad she is with me.

I am more worried that she is going to cheat on me here in Hawaii with some fat bum with money. I spy on her from the crowd where she works at a counter at a Thai eatery at a food court. There is a young man there who is Thai and gives me the death stare. My “princess” (LOL!) says not to worry he is gay. But i think she tells him what a terrible man i am and now he wants to kill me.

When she was living as my neighbor i was worried i would have to confront some trouble makers looking to have some fun with my girlfriend so i brought my SPEC-OPS combat knife. I had bought it at Fort Hood in El Paso for the deployment but quickly exchanged it for a AK-47 bayonet because i could attach it to my belt and the SPEC-OPs knife kept falling off my IBA. She felt it thru my clothes and asked me what it was for. I said it was nothing but she wanted to know so i showed it to her. She said this was bad. Lol!

I am worried that Mtv will destroy the girl i found. I am worried she will get a skank tatoo in Thailand and show it too me proudly.

(I threatened to rip her skin off like in the movies if she does.)

Oh boy i am going to be a sad boy when she gets back with her mother.

:(

~ Jack

PS: While she is there, i have found two Thai neighbors who are teaching me how to speak Thai. While they do that i let them use my internet and teach them how to lift weights.

One of the teenagers studied Muay Thai (Besides being a foot taller than my short self.) I intend to become a sparring partner but would also in exchange for his expertise teach him everything i know about Catch Wrestling and grappling. Crazy Monkey boxing comes with the package and we could start doing Bas Rutten drills with the Cd i have.

So far i have started with the alphabet and saying words with the whole accent thing. My intentions is that i want to speak to her in Thai that’s all.

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Vern January 23, 2007 at 5:29 am

Wow man… you’ve got a tough case there and I can see that you’re probably scratching your head like me. I think your girl is aware of the situation… you know? She has a stripper friend… she asked your opinion on that. I’ve had girls do that same thing here – but only girls that were in the industry. Doesn’t mean much – just a data point for you.

I miss Hawaii- when you talk about it – it’s as if I’m there again. I know Pearl Ridge mall II. I know the whole island – spent 5 years on oahu, one on Maui. Nice, nice time. Give me a chance I’d be back there now. Just no chance of that. lol.

Really, I’m stumped on your girl. Did she come over to Hawaii with other friends or with that 1st husband?

VERY few Thai girls move to Hawaii. I’m guessing she went with someone. Tough to move there too without some serious cash. She have cash from Thailand? Rich parents here? Is she Chinese Thai?

Thanks for writing the comments – it was great to read it – I couldn’t stop once I started…

Take care over there, keep it nice for me – I’ll go back to see it maybe end of this year… Vern

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Anonymous January 23, 2007 at 8:33 pm

another sad army boy,treating a thai as a piece of meat,you will loose

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Anonymous January 26, 2007 at 6:47 pm

“Vern said…

Really, I’m stumped on your girl. Did she come over to Hawaii with other friends or with that 1st husband?

She have cash from Thailand? Rich parents here? Is she Chinese Thai?”

Neither of them. She came with her mother and father. Her father is an engineer for the AirForce. She is pure Thai.

All three of them have jobs here in America and are trying to save up thier money.

I am sorry Vern but i rather not say anymore because the internet is not the safest place in the world to discuss our women. I am just concerned for their safety.

But about the girl, i have made a decision and i would like to stick to this girl until the end. I will see what happens. I don’t intend to marry her here but I wanted to do the right thing and return her to her home country because i’d thought she’d be happier there.

But i realized i should be thinking about what makes me happy. I should be doing what i want.

During my darkest hours i think she is consulting her mother and friends about me and my worth. What could she use me for?

Sadly, at least she knows she is used goods compared to other women and that she doesn’t have as much power over me as she would when she was younger. So i could leave at any time.

But it is not my nature to just let the wolves eat her alive. I will just not tell her what i think anymore for now on. No doubts about myself and where i am going.

I will do what makes me happy. She can come along on the journey of my life. I will lead.

“Anonymous said…

another sad army boy,treating a thai as a piece of meat,you will loose”

I am not trained to lose Anonymous. You will not stop me or see self-doubt into me with your shaming tactics. I will win the final fight. Your just rotten meat to me and i am the butcher.

~Jack

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Anonymous February 24, 2007 at 10:33 pm

Just something to provoke further thoughts of disucssion -
1) What if the case the farang comes over and the girl is a true virgin. After that, the farang left the girl. So does this qualified the girl to be a whore since she has given the virginity to this irresponsible farang ? My thoughts – there should be exception.

2) I believed you could have visited the bars or the strip show. There are some farangs who uses the dollars to make the girls does funny act. This could be the root cause of the problem as the girls will want to get even. The farangs have the money and willing to pay. They need the money and will do anything to get it. Supply = Demand.

I am not writing that I am endorsing the act of the girls but trying to look at the issues from another perspective.

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Richard October 5, 2007 at 4:57 pm

how pathetic it is that all these “pious” and “self-righteous” men refer to them as “whores”.

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