Honda CBR 150r – Yamaha Mio 125 MX & Nouvo 135 lc – Suzuki Raider 150r

by Vern on April 4, 2010

Suzuki Raider 150r motorcycle in Thailand

Motorcycles and scooters in Thailand and lots of WTF’s?

Recently we’ve had tragedy hit our Yamaha MIO… the engine seized going up a hill about 3 months back. After it cooled it ran enough to get it to a shop. Bill: $4,500 THB to re-do insides. Don’t ask what. I have a huge receipt with parts. The guy is a friend, he was embarrassed to give it to me. I was just happy it wasn’t 10,000 THB.

Again yesterday – the Yamaha MIO engine died going up a hill. WTF? How did I eat all the oil in a month I wondered? I didn’t… a plastic gear in the MIO crankcase broke – at least 1 piece, probably more, and somehow got into a spot it killed the entire engine. WTF – right? Why are there plastic gears in the Yamaha MIO at all?

I’ve been looking at Honda CBR 150r’s, Yamaha MIO 125 MX’s, Yamaha Nouvo Elegance’s, and what appears to be a CHERRY Suzuki Raider 150r that they tell me is from last year, but matching photos of the instrument panel I think 2005 is more likely (pictured above). There’s like not a scratch on this Suzuki Raider though. Maybe it was modded and the original stuff put on again later? It did have “racing” tires on it that said on the sidewall – don’t take over 120km/hour! WTF? That’s not RACING!

While motorcycle shopping in Thailand I’ve found:

CBR 150r’s – there are 14 used to choose from at one shop, all different years – all the same price – 42,000 THB. WTF? Same price?

CBR 150r’s – new for 69,000 THB there is a black and a blue one. I’ve not looked at more than a couple shops for new ones. This is all I’ve found so far. Supposedly there is a replacement coming soon for the CBR 150r as they are not selling anymore new ones.

MIO MX 125′s – are 51,000 THB new and quite a nice power increase over the old 110 or 115cc MIO like we have.

Nouvo Elegance 135 lc‘s – are 59,000 THB, automatic engines like the MIO and faster than MIO but slower to stop than MIOs. Rubber is much bigger on the Nouvo’s.

Suzuki Raider 150r (only found 1) – they say has 23,000 km and they want 30,000 THB. I even test-drove this one – a rarity in Thailand, and it was amazing… very strong for a 4 stroke – WITH the mechanic on the back you see in the photo above. So we were like 150kg together.

In a past life I had the Honda Nova 25th Anniversary Edition 2-stroke, modded a bit, that SCREAMED. I really wish I could find a new 2-stroke. What’s the chance of that happening? Absolutely zero.

Do I have any motorcycle savvy people reading this blog?

If you can answer any of these questions-  I’d really appreciate it…

1. How long is the projected life of an automatic motorbike? Our MIO is 4 yrs old. It has 80,000+ km on it. Is it ready to be sold as junk?

2. What signs could I look for on the Suzuki Raider 150r to see if it’s been raced? Is there something in the power curve that might tell me? Loose shifting or something? If I saw the spark plug was high performance would that mean this Raider 150r was raced a lot?

3. Anyone know where I can get a year old, maybe 2, Honda CBR 150r? I’d buy that off a farang before buying used at this shop any day, but I can’t find one close by. Saw one in Chiang Mai.

4. Anyone know the true top speed of the Honda CBR 150r? I’ve heard 140 and 160. I think it’s 140. Yes?

5. Were the yellow CBR 150r’s released in Thailand? I’ve seen only 2 of them.

6. Is there a simple mod for the CBR 150 where I could get it up to 160 or so? Simple, simple – like a bolt on exhaust… I don’t want to go without an exhaust so don’t tell me to take it off…

Honday CBR 150r - blue motorcycle in Thailand

Honda CBR 150r. Stole this pic from someone advertising at ThaiVisa.com. He's in Phuket if you want to find him on TV and email him about this one. He didn't respond to my email so I think -sold already.

UPDATE:

There are NEW Honda CBR150r FI motorcycles coming to Thailand on October 30th in Bangkok.

New Thai girls for meeting in Thailand ->

{ 8 comments… read them below or add one }

alex June 29, 2010 at 3:37 am

1. 4 years is not old enough. 80k kms is good enough mileage for a 4 year old bike. i would recommend reselling it though, but of course the price would be low

2. the plugs wont tell you anything. only with an experienced mechanic you could be able to tell if it was modified for racing purpose. have them check if it was been opened before (look for racing camshafts, racing cdi, carb modifications, ports enhancements)

3.pass

4. 140kph to 150kph, depending on the rider’s weight

5.pass

6. a camshaft, an exhaust and a cdi. but i wont guarantee a 160kph top end though. advice: buy a bigger displacement

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reiluke August 26, 2010 at 11:06 am

1. my friends raider is 90,000+km on it, piston was replaced on 40000km and timing chain was replaced every 30,000km, still runs like its new. you can still sell it after you sort out the problems…do not sell with problems or it will come back right at you

2. if they wont let you open the engine, listen to the engine, the first thing that fails is the timing chain/guide it will loosen and will create a rattling sound, also almost all raiders in my country(ph) use irridium plugs..not for racing but for fuel efficiency. most raiders that have been raced have been setup such that it cannot handle high rpm for a long time or it will overheat, the picture you posted is 2005 version without electric starter..but compared to the 2008 – 2010 version, 2005 is faster stock to stock

4. true top speed according to my friends is 150kph+, if you change muffler and cdi you will hit 160

5. …

6. best mod is just change the cdi, if you want a straight exchaust make sure you rejet the carburador

you are very lucky because the price of cbr150 97,000 WTF

cbr versus raider
speed = CBR
fuel mileage = CBR

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Vern August 26, 2010 at 11:56 am

Hi – thanks for responding – this is all great info. I’m not sure it all applies. Let me ask you…

2. You said the one in the picture is a 2005? I have the registration book. It is 2008. Why do you say 2005? the plastic fairings? Maybe they used old ones… ? Is there something else you see that makes you think 2005?

4. I have got 138 I think. I’m a bit heavier than most Thais or Filipinos though I think. I have thick tires too, original rims. No modifications that I know of.

Price of a CBR 150 in Thailand is only about 72,000 THB brand new. did you mean 97,000 THB???

Are you sure the CBR is faster – unmodded?

For fuel efficiency, yes, I think CBR has me. I blow through gas VERY fast at 120+ kph driving.

Thanks again for your post. Cheers.

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reiluke August 26, 2010 at 11:49 pm

Hi again,

2. Fairings and stickers is 2005 version, also the time when you test ride it did you notice an electric starter? the electric starter is in the middle..right on top of the crank case, the pic you posted does not have one..im sure thats a 2005 version..but it looks very new, old stock perhaps?

4. unmodded cbr is faster than raider, raider can go only 125kph if you are in a normal riding position, but it can top 140kph+ if the rider is in aerodynamic position…or what we call superman position “legs straight and head ducked” so there is no wind drag, cbr 150 has a big windshield so no need for superman position.
cbr also though heavier for about 8 or 9 kilos..im not sure have 22 horsepower versus 16 hp of raider.

with proper shifting and aftermarket cdi, you will hit 160kph, like this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0IjoZCwotY

yes 97,000 thb and you dont see any preowned cbr150 on motorcycle shops, so you are very lucky to be in thailand

ride safe sir

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Wendy September 4, 2010 at 12:10 am

Hi guys. I saw in one of your postings that you have seen new CBR150′s for sale. I understand that there are some shops that have overstock from years gone past…. can you please please please provide me with the location of one of these sellers. I REALLY want one but can’t seem to find one. Even a shop that carries a more than 1 second hand one would be great. Thanks in advance.

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Vern September 4, 2010 at 12:58 am

Where are you located?

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Wendy September 4, 2010 at 1:41 am

Located in Bankok, but willing to travel.

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ASHRAFUL December 5, 2010 at 5:01 am

Hi Guys, I’m from Bangladesh an very keen to buy a cbr 150r brand new or below 30000 kms. How can a have this one ????
Please help me…

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